Adding my thoughts on @Tana_inc, originally posted in the #RoamCN group • I underestimated Tana 😜 • @RoamResearch embraces the chaos, Tana can get you out of the chaos. 😼 https://t.co/3tZk01erW2
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• If you like to keep information/data structured, you should be biased towards Tana, so Tana's goal feels more like trying to do teamwork, vs Notion https://t.co/X4nUJptzvh
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• IMHO, Structure must come from Chaos and originate from Empty. 🤔 https://t.co/yesnm7p1F3
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• For example, from a personal point of view, every day I will open Daily Notes (blank/empty) • 1. after using RR for a long time, it must produce templates, such as Morning Routines, Habit Tracking, Project Progress, etc. https://t.co/at1EwZRKpx
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• 2. after some patterns are fixed, you will want to abstract a concept, create a new entity, such as Reading Notes, CRM, etc. • 3. you must have used attr:: the way to define some meta data in Roam, this is actually a kind of structured https://t.co/DYcE1aUmNs
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• 4. so, Tana's most core optimization is to abstract this pattern into 'Supertag' • 5. where an ordinary block/note plus supertag, it becomes a structured data (I call it 'atom' well, can be organized to Molecules · Organisms, ref Atomic Design) https://t.co/8E8d42vJhf
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• 6. then based on these structured data, Tana can do N*many things: e.g. multi-view UIs (Different views) - currently supports Kanban, Tables, Lists, Tabs, etc., - image the future, to support Grid, Whiteboard, Mind Maps, even Sudoku, etc. are natural) https://t.co/LOQ3b06FPz
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• 7. The cooler features: live query, command line, etc., you can quickly query these structured data through natural language. actually, this can also be considered the optimization of query in Roam https://t.co/lufPrKH1Tt
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• To sum up, 🙌 Roam's attr:: and query and even {{table, kanban, diagram}} have the prototype of a texting graph database. But they are like a defective product, not so usable, but only v0.1 version. https://t.co/Ges5yHfSmn
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• I believe that in Conor's vision, not without wanting to make attr::, query, diagram and event other features better, but the development schedule is really pulling 😂 https://t.co/Yea1sWVEYe
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• A strategy for scaling up, relying on the plugin mechanism, actually this is already presented a hundred #roamcult community. If there is no roam/js, roam/css hack way to polish the product, the #roamcult vibe would not have been able to get popular. https://t.co/Lx9OdlLVyj
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• But for the fanatics who are passionate about Roam optimization: - how can they be satisfied with a jigsaw 🧩 with roam/js or Roam Depot? - or how can they resist the temptation to recreate another 'Roam Research', with the added benefit of capital? https://t.co/JOUtnwxjby
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• Tana, in terms of functionality, does complement some of the unfinished functions of the Roam graph database, and can probably be called a complete v0.75, with a promising future. https://t.co/7Hb3CO7fmU
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• So, as a USER, you should ask yourself: 1. how often do you use and query in Roam? 2. and how many views of Notion's database do you use? • If you don't use these functions much, you probably can't use Tana even if it is well done. https://t.co/DeGCJpHyVO
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• Of course, it's okay to play around with the new toy. But remember the first trick to overcome #efficiency_addiction (or #[[Productivity Porn]] ): Deliberately distinguish between playing with toys and using tools. https://t.co/hIsW66hyw8
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022

• Of course this thread 🧵 was written inside @RoamResearch and then posted via @Typefully. https://t.co/Ocw3LG7EDi
— jimmylv.eth (🐣, 🐣) 吕立青 2𐃏22 🇨🇳 (@Jimmy_JingLv) Oct 7, 2022